We talk about college and non-college, and that's just because that's something that's very

easy to measure.

But the real divide is along these deeper cultural or personality traits.

That's kind of the claim here.

But I guess just to zoom back to polling.

So this opened up this big error in polling, and I think this highlights something that's really scary about polling,

which is that you can have a method that works, and then the coalitions can change, or who answers the phone can change,

and then suddenly your stuff will break.

Hello, and welcome to Wise is Happening with me, your host, Chris Hayes.

I'm just going to say honestly that I probably feel more worried about the trajectory of America and American democracy

than I ever have, and that includes the night that Trump won.

In some ways, I think that Trump's defeat as narrow as it was in certain ways.

It was a resounding rejection of an incumbent in the popular vote, but flipped 60,000 votes in the Electoral College, and he's re-elected.

Watching the spectacle of the Republican Party rally around an effort to essentially sue to destroy the union,

which is what they're doing before the court right now, an effort that is not going to be successful,

but if it were successful, would immediately plunge the country into the worst constitutional crisis it's faced since at least the contested election of 1876,

and probably more properly since the Sassan Crisis of 1860.

That's the fire they're playing with.

That is the gun that they are firing that they, I think, believe is unloaded, or just shooting blanks.

I think we all think it is unloaded in shooting blanks, but think about what it would be if it weren't.

The fundamentals of the problem, I think, have to do with two main things.

The nature of our two political coalitions, the competitiveness between them, the increasing polarization and the asymmetry of the anti-democratic features of one of those two coalitions, the Republican coalition.

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