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perceptions of legitimacy because perceptions of legitimacy will determine how many pieces they can deploy on the chessboard

to orchestrate a potential coup. But what I'm getting at here is around that time, Jeff Bezos,

it came out publicly, that he had been actually reading right-winged, a sort of new right

literature. So they need to find a new cover in order to centralize this censorship leviathan

they've already created. Total destabilization,

shutdown on the federal highways, occupation of federal buildings, Molotov cocktails and police

cars, burning down police precincts surrounding the White House. There was a chilling anarcho tyranny.

If they do that this time, it could be a game changer from what we had last time.

With us now is the executive

director for the Foundation for Freedom Online, Mike Benz. Mike, good to see you. Great to see you, Liz.

Thanks for having me. All right, Mike, I want to talk about election integrity with you today because you have

some predictions about what's going to happen as it relates to the certification of the

Electoral College this year, or I suppose it'll be

in January of next year, but this election cycle. But before we get to that, there's been a video

that I think has been underreported out of the Biden administration. This is Jake Sullivan,

National Security Advisor, who was holding a town hall, but for his own own employees essentially. And a woman comes up to the

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