Welcome to the Theology Podcast. It's good to have you here for this show. I'm

C. R. Wiley. I'm a pastor and I serve a church just right outside of Portland, Oregon and I have written a number of things and

my latest book is in the House of Tom Baumadow working on other books.

Wish I could say I've got them done, but I don't.

And anyway, that's me.

So why don't we kick it over to you, Glenn.

Tell us about yourself.

I'm Glenn Sunshine. I'm a retired history professor specializing in Renaissance in our formation Europe.

I'm a senior fellow at the Colson Center for Christian Worldview, work for Reflections

ministries and I have my own ministry as well,

every Squareinch Ministries, e-square-inch.org.

Okay, great.

Tom, tell us about yourself,

and then take us right into the subject of the day.

All right, I'm Tom Price, I teach theology and Christian ethics at Gordon Conwell Theological

Seminary and a few other places.

So the topic of the day, a good way of entering it before I give the title would be the way in which you sometimes scroll LinkedIn or you get a CV for a job and you find sort of people

selling themselves so that they can get hired.

And one of the things you'll notice

is just how deeply and intensively passionate people

are about things like, as the article will be reading,

digital marketing or

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