Content warning. This episode contains discussion of the murder of two girls, violence and severe mental illnesses and disorders.

Lately, the subject of mental illness has become a major topic among those following the Delphi murders.

That is due to developments in the case against Richard or Rick Allen, the man charged with murdering Liberty German and Abigail Williams.

Specifically, it's because of the emergency motion to modify safekeeping order that defense attorney Brad Rosie filed on April 5th, 2023.

Here are the relevant paragraphs.

To further complicate matters, Mr. Allen has suffered from depression dating back to his early years.

Upon his incarceration, Mr. Allen was presumably evaluated and medicated by prison medical staff.

Up until the visit with Mr. Allen on April 4th, 2023, Council for Mr. Allen found him to be polite, communicative, with great eye contact, generally responsive to our questions and exhibiting good sense of humor on occasion in spite of his false arrest and circumstances.

However, Mr. Allen's deteriorating physical condition has been observed by Council dating back to the beginning of the new year.

As recently as Friday, March 24th, 2023, attorney Andrew Baldwin met with Mr. Allen with optimistic news about the direction of the case, and Mr. Allen was inquisitive about the information, was thankful about the information, and optimistic about the information.

Only 10 days later, April 3rd, 2023, attorneys for Mr. Allen observed steep decline in Mr. Allen's demeanor, ability to communicate, ability to comprehend,

and ability to assist in his defense. Simply put, this version of Richard Allen was a very different version than Council for Mr. Allen had interacted with over the past five months.

Mr. Allen appeared to be suffering from various psychotic symptoms, which Council would describe as schizophrenic and delusional.

Council further believes that in our April 4th, 2023 interaction, Mr. Allen seems to be suffering from memory loss and is demonstrating an overall inability to communicate rationally with Council and family members.

Council experienced these symptoms firsthand upon visiting Mr. Allen on Monday, April 4th, 2023.

The filing contains troubling allegations about Allen's time in Westfield prison, but the details about his mental health state also raise concerns and questions.

Ever since this filing came out, a discussion over Allen's mental health has taken hold. In this episode, we'll have an expert in this field on our show to discuss all the nuances here.

This licensed mental health counselor will speak to us about schizophrenia, psychosis, and Allen's alleged behaviors as described in the filing.

My name is Anya Cain. I'm a journalist.

And I'm Kevin Greenley. I'm an attorney.

We first connected while looking into the Bergerchef murders in Indiana cold case. Together, we built a spreadsheet documenting hundreds of cases of restaurant related homicides.

That original spreadsheet gave way to our podcast, the murder sheet.

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