The Delphi Murders: Fallout From the Suppression Hearing That Wasn't

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🗓️ 20 June 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

On June 15, 2023, there was a major pre-trial hearing in the case against Richard Allen. Let's regroup over some of the issues that were alluded to in that hearing.

Here's our coverage of the June 15, 2023 hearing in the case against Richard Allen: https://art19.com/shows/murder-sheet/episodes/1f1fbba1-58cb-4fc1-9872-1722467a36a0

Here's part one of our previous coverage of suits against the Carroll County Sheriff's Office: https://art19.com/shows/murder-sheet/episodes/89f862ab-f7f9-4ddd-8bf1-7136cf7e5886

Here's part two of our previous coverage of suits against the Carroll County Sheriff's Office: https://art19.com/shows/murder-sheet/episodes/34ce07da-1ad9-4eaf-89db-989e0f19f39e

Here's part one of our lawsuit coverage: https://art19.com/shows/murder-sheet/episodes/89f862ab-f7f9-4ddd-8bf1-7136cf7e5886

Here's our previous coverage of former Carroll County Chief Deputy Mike Thomas's lawsuit: https://art19.com/shows/murder-sheet/episodes/0c7586fb-aac1-459d-82b6-f5852f532a25

Here's our coverage of the statement from Allen's defense team: https://art19.com/shows/murder-sheet/episodes/101fd34d-223a-454b-abfa-4654a242061e

Here's our original interview with Thomas: https://art19.com/shows/murder-sheet/episodes/57449f66-b69d-4e43-ad05-41e8fbfa2275

An interview with a first Westville inmate: https://art19.com/shows/murder-sheet/episodes/60e7a059-012d-4a5b-8e60-2ed56069c67b

An interview with a second Westville inmate: https://art19.com/shows/murder-sheet/episodes/39ef1fee-6765-4e41-bb38-93e33e7ae45b

Our chat on subpoenas related to Westville: https://art19.com/shows/murder-sheet/episodes/a8c71c8a-3671-43cc-a15f-b89b2e2fab25

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0:00.0	Content warning, this episode contains discussion of the murder of two girls. It also gets in-depth on a child molestation case.
0:10.0	So last week, of course, we talked a lot about what actually happened in the courtroom on Thursday in the hearing involving the Richard Allen case.
0:21.0	We did not go into much detail on the other hand about what didn't happen. It was supposed to be, as we all know, a suppression hearing.
0:31.0	So why exactly did that suppression hearing get delayed? And what could that potentially tell us about the future of this case and where things might be headed?
0:46.0	My name is Anya Cain. I'm a journalist. And I'm Kevin Greenley. I'm an attorney.
0:53.0	We first connected while looking into the Bergerchef murders, an Indiana cold case. Together, we built a spreadsheet documenting hundreds of cases of restaurant-related homicides.
1:05.0	That original spreadsheet gave way to our podcast, the murder sheet.
1:11.0	Now we maintain that same research-centric investigative approach is we look into all sorts of homicides, including unsolved cases, historical crimes, and, of course, restaurant murders.
1:26.0	We don't just chat about the headlines. Our podcast is a platform for our journalism.
1:33.0	The murder sheet focuses on investigative reporting, thoughtful analysis, thorough research, and in-depth interviews. We're the murder sheet.
1:43.0	And this is the Delphi murders. Fall out from the suppression hearing that wasn't.
2:03.0	We're the murder sheet. We're the murder sheet. We're the murder sheet. We're the murder sheet. We're the murder sheet. We're the murder sheet.
2:19.0	So when the judge said that the suppression hearing was going to be delayed, she did offer a bit of an explanation.
2:43.0	She said it was because of Frank's V Delaware issues, basically.
2:49.0	What is Frank's V Delaware?
2:55.0	Frank's V Delaware is a Supreme Court case from back in the late 70s.
3:01.0	And basically it's kind of a complicated case, but the gist of it is that if the law enforcement officers who put together a search warrant include in their statements that they know or strongly suspect or false in order to get the warrant, then you need to throw those false statements out.
3:25.0	And if after you throw out those false statements, there's not enough left to justify the problem caused for the search warrant, then the search warrant itself must be thrown out and that any evidence seized as a result of that search warrant must also be suppressed.
3:43.0	Okay, so can I use a dumb anecdote here or dumb metaphor perhaps? So is that like if if we're Apple farmers, you know, I love Macintosh apples, we get a whole crop of apples.
3:57.0	But then through some science, we learn that a bunch of the apples have worms in them, but we are supposed to deliver a metric ton of apples.
4:07.0	You know, after we throw out all the wormy apples, it's kind of like if we still have a metric ton, we're good. We're still in business.
4:14.0	If we have to throw out the wormy apples, then we are going to lose the farm and go bankrupt.
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