The Degree of the IC in Whole Sign Houses

The Astrology Podcast

Chris Brennan

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Philosophy, Spirituality, Religion

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🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 197 minutes

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In this episode we discuss how in whole sign houses the degree of the IC acts as a sensitive point that floats around the bottom half of the chart, and that it imports 4th house significations and blends them with whatever whole sign house it falls in, with astrologers Pallas K. Augustine and Chris Brennan. While the IC is traditionally associated with the fourth house topics of home, parents, and roots, in the Whole Sign House system the degree of the IC can actually float to different sectors of the chart, most commonly falling in the third or fifth houses. We explore the astronomical distinction between the fourth whole sign house and the degree of the IC, and how the IC acts as an importer of fourth house significations into the house where it is located, creating a blending of themes between the two houses. In order to research this topic we sent out a survey to listeners to ask them how this placement has worked out in their lives when the IC falls in a whole sign house other than the 4th sign, and most of the episode is spent going through examples of the IC in the 2nd, 3rd, 5th, and 6th houses. We also discuss the role of the ruler of the IC and how its placement can further modify these significations, as well as how this approach helps to reconcile some of the distinctions between Whole Sign and quadrant house frameworks. Pallas recently published book titled The IC: The Astrology of Coming Home, and you can order the book or find out more about their work through their website: https://www.nineofwands.com This is episode 512 of The Astrology Podcast. Timestamps 00:00:00 Introduction 00:04:14 The Floating IC Concept in Whole Sign Houses 00:05:42 The IC as Roots, Ancestors, and Mycelium 00:11:38 Tracking Transits Over the Floating IC 00:16:07 Significations of the 4th House and IC 00:22:01 The Hidden Nature of the IC 00:26:38 Extreme Latitudes and the Floating IC 00:30:53 Astronomical Definitions of the MC and IC 00:42:49 The Mercurial Nature of Astrology 00:45:29 2nd House IC 01:00:51 6th House IC 01:10:04 3rd House IC 01:53:52 5th House IC 03:04:17 Concluding Remarks 03:14:14 Credits Watch the Video Version of This Episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x8mdeQ9Z8g - Listen to the Audio Version of This Episode Listen to the audio version of this episode or download it as an MP3:

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0:00.0	Hey, my name is Chris Brennan. You're listening to the Astrology podcast.
0:03.0	Joining me today is Astrology Palace K. Augustine, and we're going to be talking about the floating I see as a sensitive point,
0:11.0	and what happens when it falls in different whole sign houses in the chart besides the fourth whole sign house,
0:18.0	and how it imports a fourth house or icy significations,
0:23.6	which then double up in the whole sign house that it falls in.
0:27.6	So hey, Pallas, thanks for joining me.
0:29.6	Hi, thanks for having me.
0:31.6	Yeah, I'm very excited to have you on the show.
0:33.6	This is your first time on the show, and we've been talking about doing this for over a year now
0:37.8	because you recently just published a book on the IC itself, right?
0:43.8	Mm-hmm.
0:44.7	In 2022, when Jupiter and Pisces was conjunct my IC, we launched a Kickstarter to fund
0:52.0	the IC and astrology of Coming Home.
0:54.4	It was wildly successful, which was beautiful.
0:57.3	I love my Kickstarter backers.
0:59.3	And it took us a couple years to get it all together.
1:03.0	Hugh Tran, a brilliant designer and astrologer did the whole book too.
1:08.0	And so it took us a couple of years, but we got it.
1:10.1	It was beautiful.
1:10.7	And then the
1:11.6	first run after we fulfilled the Kickstarter backers orders sold out immediately. So it took us a while
1:18.4	to come out with a second edition. But now we have a second edition of the I see. It's an ebook and a
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