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'The Definitions' features dorm room conversation – with a dystopian twist

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Arts, Books

4.2671 Ratings

🗓️ 12 January 2026

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

Matt Greene’s new novel The Definitions starts with new college dormmates getting to know each other. But there’s a dystopian twist: The students have survived a virus that has erased people’s memories. Nameless students attend school at The Center, where they’re told their memories will one day return to them. In today’s episode, Greene chats with NPR’s Lauren Frayer about the philosophy of language, the pandemic, and some unresolved questions from his book.


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0:00.0

Okay, it's NPR's Book of the Day.

0:03.5

I'm Andrew Limbong.

0:05.3

One of the best privileges going to college affords is time.

0:10.0

Yeah, sure, time to study and read books and stuff, I guess, but also time to, I don't know,

0:15.4

bum around with your friends and talk about whatever.

0:19.0

And interestingly enough, that's how you get to some deeper conversations about life and

0:24.1

meaning and truth.

0:25.6

Matt Green's book, The Definitions, centers on some dorm mates who have these conversations,

0:30.1

but with a dystopian twist, after the break, he talks to NPR's Lauren Freyer about how

0:34.8

language is actually an imperfect way to communicate ideas and how

0:39.8

he was inspired by sending his kid to school for the first time.

0:43.6

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0:57.0

Be smart. Get Wise. Download the wise app today or visit wise.com. T's and Cs apply. Matt Green's new novel, The Definitions, starts with a

1:05.3

simple, relatable scene, new dorm mates getting to know each other. It could be any college campus.

1:11.3

But there is a dystopian backstory. These students are survivors of a virus that has erased

1:17.4

people's memories. I spoke with Green and asked what inspired him to write about people

1:22.8

trying to navigate the world in this way.

1:25.1

The sort of rush towards authoritarianism from

1:27.6

electorates across the world was definitely a big consideration. The acceleration or hyper

1:34.8

acceleration of our sort of disconnect between language and meaning and the industrialization

1:42.0

of that post-meaning landscape was definitely something that was playing on my mind.

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