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When I think of Rashi Wallace, man, I mean, there's so many good things that I could say about him.

It's when they come to a friend mentor, a big brother.

You know, it's just totally opposite of when the way he's been portrayed in the media, the way people think about it.

I'm on the phone, Bonzi Wells, a 10-year NBA vet, Bonzi played for five teams,

but is best known for his years on the Portland Trailblazers, where he starred alongside Rashi Wallace.

You heard from Rashi and the beginning of episode one.

So taking a step back, talk about how you watched and learned about NBA refereeing from Rashi.

When I really knew it was real, when we were in the 2000 Western's conference finals,

and you know, Rashi, he was just really like, I'm going to be on my best behavior.

And I would just remember, you know, a moment Rashi looked at the ref, and he all he did was look at him.

He didn't go at him in a blatant type of, you know, manner way.

The ref had to fear for anything, Rashi just looked at him, and he whacked him,

gave him two texts, ejected our best player out the game.

Bonzi is not exaggerating when he said the referee, Ron Garrison, in this case,

whacked him out of the game.

Wack get out, they get away from me, Steve.

And I told him he didn't say a word.

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