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The Deepfake Dilemma: The Technology, Policy, and Economy

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Science, Innovation, Business, Entrepreneurship, Culture, Disruption, Software Eating The World, Technology

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 October 2024

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Deepfakes—AI-generated fake videos and voices—have become a widespread concern across politics, social media, and more. As they become easier to create, the threat grows. But so do the tools to detect them. In this episode, Vijay Balasubramaniyan, cofounder and CEO of Pindrop, joins a16z’s Martin Casado to discuss how deepfakes work, how easily they can be made, and what defenses we have. They’ll also explore the role of policy and regulation in this rapidly changing space. Have we lost control of the truth? Listen to find out.

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0:00.0

At the end of last year there were 120 tools with which you can clone someone's voice and by March of this year it's become 350.

0:12.0

Being able to identify what is real is going to become really important,

0:18.0

especially because now you can do all of these things at scale.

0:22.0

One of the reasons that spam works and deep fakes work

0:26.0

is the marginal cost of the next call is so low

0:29.6

that you can do these things in Madison, Madison.

0:31.5

It's way cheaper to detect deepfics. We've had 10,000 years of

0:35.9

evolution and the way we produce speech has vocal chords, has the diaphragm, has your

0:41.6

lips and your mouth and your nasal cavity is really hard

0:45.1

for these systems to replicate all of that.

0:49.4

Deep fake a portmanteau of deep learning and fake that started making its way into the public

0:55.0

consciousness in 2018 but is now fully in the zeitgeist. We are seeing an

1:00.2

alarming rise of deep fakes. Deep fakes are becoming increasingly easy to make.

1:05.1

Deep fake videos are everywhere now.

1:07.1

Deep fake robocaller with someone using President Biden's voice.

1:12.2

Deep fake of President Zelinsky.

1:14.2

Deep Fake.

1:14.9

Deep Fakes. Deep Fakes.

1:17.2

We've seen deep fakes across social media, commerce, sports,

1:20.5

and of course politics.

1:22.8

And at the rate that they're appearing,

1:24.5

deep fakes might sound like an impossible problem to tackle.

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