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WSJ Opinion: Free Expression

The Decline of Men in the Workforce

WSJ Opinion: Free Expression

Gerard Baker, Editor at Large, The Wall Street Journal

Society & Culture, News

4.6591 Ratings

🗓️ 22 August 2022

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of Free Expression, Wall Street Journal Editor at Large Gerry Baker speaks with economist Nicholas Eberstadt about why men are leaving the workforce in greater numbers, what these men are doing with their time while not employed, and if the policies and economics of Covid-19 have forever changed the culture of the office.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

From the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal, this is Free Expression with Jerry Baker.

0:08.7

Hello and welcome to Free Expression with me, Jerry Baker, from the Wall Street Journal editorial page.

0:13.0

Thanks very much for joining us. If you don't already, please be sure to subscribe at Apple Podcasts, Spotify and elsewhere, and do kindly leave us a nice review.

0:20.2

This week on the podcast,

0:21.5

we're going to examine what exactly is happening to the US labour force. Despite proliferating

0:26.0

signs of weakness in the US economy, jobs growth since the pandemic has been relatively strong,

0:30.9

with overall employment recently returning to its pre-COVID high. But at the same time,

0:35.1

millions of Americans have left the workforce, and job vacancies

0:37.6

remain near all-time highs with employers reporting labor shortages across the economy. Nicholas Eberstadt,

0:43.3

an economist at the American Enterprise Institute, has documented the changing nature of U.S. employment

0:47.1

over the years. In his 2016 book, Men Without Work, he chronicled one especially alarming trend,

0:52.5

the sharp decline in the number of men with

0:54.6

jobs. Millions of working-aged men have been retreating from the labor force for years,

0:58.8

and that trend has accelerated since the pandemic. In a new edition of the book to be published in

1:02.5

September, he examines how the male exodus from work has now intensified and how it's

1:07.0

spreading, in fact, to other demographics. And he explains why this shift represents such a major challenge for the US economy and for the country's future. Dr. Ebersat is the Henry Wendt Chair in Political Economy at AEI, and he joins me now. Nick, thank you very much indeed for being here. Thanks for inviting me. So, Nick, let's start with this phenomenon that you've been tracking for a long time, which has large implications for the US economy, which economy, which is the decline of men, of working-age men in the labor force. And if you

1:30.8

would, if you just lay out some of the basic data, put it into historical context, and explain

1:35.8

what's been going on. Sure. What economists call prime working-age men, it's pretty self-explanatory,

1:41.8

guys 25 and 54 are still the backbone of the economy,

1:46.8

and they have a tiny non-economic role in life also in raising families, raising children.

1:54.7

Up until the 1960s, work rates for prime age men in America were consistent and very high.

2:04.5

And then starting in the mid-60s, something changed.

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