Hello and welcome to the debate available for you on MUTV and of course as a Manchester United podcast

the cast list for today Laurie Whitwell from the Athletic wears brown former Manchester United defender

Shavon Chamberlain former Manchester United women's goalkeeper and Neil Custis from the Sun all of this and much more on the way

That'll be the first that they've done that in modern times just because the the turn around has been so tight as a center forwards

You miss an open goal that doesn't necessarily get remembered as much does it we need a little bit of a boost and and really start

Performing now in the next game because it's getting a bit too tight

From I like it for this club not to have a number nine at the very top of his game is is it is a major problem

Yes, hello welcome along look. There's only one place to start

It's not happy place to start unfortunately

Manchester United fall into their second away defeat in a row brought and followed by West Ham and

Unfortunately Laurie it it was a game where again an individual error has cost Manchester United the game

Yeah, I mean it was a pretty brutal individual error wasn't it

It's the fourth one that David Hayes committed this season leading to a goal

Which is the most of any Premier League player?

I mean as when you're a goalkeeper you make a mistake. It's going to lead to a goal pretty much

So perhaps we should take that into consideration

But it was a really strange one from the Hayed. It didn't seem to have a set himself properly

Didn't push off the grass. I mean Ben Rama shot was more like a back pass

You know I was in the London stadium and fans had kind of started groaning because of the attempt that he'd taken

So yeah real aberration from the Hayer

But I think also at the other end of the pitch not being able to score you know

Create chances to begin the game actually look quite positive quite vibrant

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