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Worldly

The debate didn’t cover foreign policy. So we did.

Worldly

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.41.8K Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2020

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Zack, Jenn, and Alex break down the 2020 Democratic field’s positions on foreign policy — which were weirdly under-discussed in the most recent debate. They set up a spectrum, with Bloomberg on the (far) right flank and Bernie on the left, situate the other candidates along this line, and discuss the things that distinguish each candidate on the issues. Zack comes out as a free trader, Jenn heaps love on Biden’s detailed foreign policy answers, and Alex gets feisty. References: Alex wrote about the foreign policy splits among the frontrunners, as well as Buttigieg dodging questions. Here are the Council on Foreign Relations and New York Times foreign policy surveys. Alex conducted foreign policy interviews with Tom Steyer and Julián Castro. Biden has some explaining to do on his Iraq War stance, as does Bloomberg. Hosts: Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox Alex Ward (@AlexWardVox), national security reporter, Vox More to explore: Subscribe for free to Today, Explained, Vox’s daily news podcast to help you understand the news, hosted by Sean Rameswaram. About Vox: Vox is a news network that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Follow Us: Vox.com Newsletter: Vox Sentences Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

In December 2020, a Latino couple was falsely accused by a white mom

0:04.9

influencer of attempting to kidnap her children. The Karen phenomenon where white

0:09.6

women falsely accused people of color of crimes usually fixates on the

0:13.5

accuser the so-called Karen. But for this series we focus on the

0:17.2

innocent couple at the heart of this story. I just want the public to know

0:21.9

what she did was wrong.

0:24.0

In Perfect Paradise People versus Karen,

0:26.4

available now wherever you get your podcasts. If you can watch last night's Democratic debate, you can be forgiven for having not known that the rest of the world does not exist.

0:46.0

There was virtually no conversation about the candidates foreign policy with a few scattered exceptions.

0:51.0

And yet, that's a real real problem because not only is foreign

0:54.5

policy the area on which the president has the most authority but it's one in

0:58.3

which there are absolutely massive divides between these candidates in a way that

1:02.1

really hadn't been fleshed out

1:04.1

until recently at this point in the race. So today I'm worldly, part of the Vox

1:07.9

Media Podcast Network, we are going to talk about these differences to

1:11.4

understand where the Democratic Party is at on foreign

1:14.4

policy, what the different perspectives are, and you know what it might look like if you have

1:19.8

say a Michael Bloomberg versus our Bernie Sanders in office.

1:23.6

I'm Zach Beecham here as always with Jen Williams and Alex Warden.

1:26.7

Howdy.

1:27.2

Ready to debate.

1:28.7

You are?

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