Liam Payne has substances including cocaine, crack, and benzodiazepam.

This is not a talent thing. In fact, Liam, if he came to a talent thing, his outcome was great.

I don't need to play into this. I'm here to speak about the tragic loss of our dear friend Liam.

Thank you very much. This is what Liam actually sent you. Here's, you're only here because you talk shit about everyone and make controversial outbursts about people to get attention. Okay. What's your point? When these people are becoming famous and they're getting the money that they want, but when you have the dark side of fame, that suddenly becomes everyone else's fault. But if you didn't want to do the interview, you shouldn't have it? Well, do you know what? I said no initially, but... Well, you're here now, aren't you? You managed to force yourself once again

to do something you don't want to do. Minutes before his tragic death, Liam Payne reportedly said, I used to be in a boy band. That's why I'm so messed up. Inevitably, there's been a little soul-searching about the music industry, about young stars and about talent shows.

Former X-Factor judge Sharon Osborne said the industry failed Liam Payne and needs reform.

Guy Chambers, who wrote many of Robbie Williams' biggest hits, question whether Miners

should be allowed to sign for boy bands at all. Some even say it's time to band shows like

X-Factor and America's got talent altogether.

The part that many people are reluctant to say out loud is that fame brings not only risk,

but also massive opportunity and privilege. The world of money, luxury and untold adulation is often inseparable from drugs, intrusion and the eventual fall from grace.

We've seen it so many times. Is it a risk that society

should continue to take with its brightest stars? Well, in the moment, I'll be joined by Katie Wessel,

who's the British singer-songwriter, who auditioned alongside Payne on the 2010 series of X Factor,

and is currently suing Simon Carle's record company for an alleged breach of duty of care.

But first, Unsensored contributor Esther Crack will be with me, DJ and comedian Jane's Bar, who knew Liam. And up first, the current judge on America's Got Talent, my former colleague on that show, and Canada's Got Talent, Howie Mandel. Howie, thank you so much for joining me. I've got to say that I was... Thanks for having me, buddy. Like everyone, I was devastated to see this

news about Liam Payne, 31 years old. It's an absolutely shocking tragedy that he's dead.

We don't know, and it's very important to stress this. We do not know yet whether he died

accidentally, whether he took his own life or what may

have contributed to his death.

That's not been established yet.

So I think it's very important to have that on the record at the start before we start

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