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Witness History

The death of Franco

Witness History

BBC

History, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.41.6K Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

General Francisco Franco died in November 1975, ending 36 years of dictatorship over Spain.

The general had been in power since 1939 after winning the country’s bloody civil war, and his death followed a long illness.

He was mourned by conservative Spaniards but those on the left celebrated, calling him a fascist who had once been an ally of Hitler and Mussolini.

In 2015, Louise Hidalgo spoke to Jose Antonio Martinez Soler, a young journalist about the ending of an era.

Eye-witness accounts brought to life by archive. Witness History is for those fascinated by the past. We take you to the events that have shaped our world through the eyes of the people who were there. For nine minutes every day, we take you back in time and all over the world, to examine wars, coups, scientific discoveries, cultural moments and much more. Recent episodes explore everything from the death of Adolf Hitler, the first spacewalk and the making of the movie Jaws, to celebrity tortoise Lonesome George, the Kobe earthquake and the invention of superglue. We look at the lives of some of the most famous leaders, artists, scientists and personalities in history, including: Eva Peron – Argentina’s Evita; President Ronald Reagan and his famous ‘tear down this wall’ speech; Thomas Keneally on why he wrote Schindler’s List; and Jacques Derrida, France’s ‘rock star’ philosopher. You can learn all about fascinating and surprising stories, such as the civil rights swimming protest; the disastrous D-Day rehearsal; and the death of one of the world’s oldest languages.

(Photo: General Francisco Franco lies in state in Madrid, 1975. Credit: Central Press/Getty Images)

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:07.0

Hello, I'm Emma Barnett. For most of my career, I've been on live radio, and I love it.

0:13.3

But I've always wondered, what if we'd had more time? How much deeper does the story go?

0:19.2

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0:21.7

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0:23.6

this is it, this defines your life.

0:26.0

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0:28.3

I'm insulted by how little the medical community is ever bothered with this.

0:33.9

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0:37.0

Listen on BBC Sounds.

0:42.5

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0:48.7

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0:56.1

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1:01.8

And today, we're going back to Spain in 1975, a country that for 36 years has been under

1:09.0

the control of General Francisco Franco.

1:12.4

But the dictator is now gravely ill in a Madrid hospital.

1:16.6

In 2015, Louise Hidalgo spoke to journalist Jose Antonio Martinez-Colair

1:21.9

about the ending of an era.

1:25.0

I was at the door of the hospital, La Paz, that night, as many nights before,

1:30.0

because General Franco, the dictator was dying, dying, dying, but never died.

1:34.6

So that night I went after my work to the door of the hospital with some of the journalists.

1:39.6

We were waiting the big news of the last 40 years in Spain, the death of the dictator.

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