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The Davos of Bipartisanship (with Karl Rove)

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News Commentary, News, Government, Politics

4.87.7K Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2021

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Karl Rove, former deputy chief of staff to President George W. Bush and current Fox News contributor and Wall Street Journal columnist, joins Axe and Gibbs to discuss the latest GOP infighting and Trump’s continued influence on the party, how redistricting will impact the 2022 midterms and beyond, and whether a bipartisan agreement on anything from infrastructure to immigration can be reached in Congress.

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You know Murphy, I'm surprised as we think through all the public debates that are happening

0:05.3

right now that so much of it is based on the fact that we're arguing about what are facts.

0:12.6

And it doesn't seem like we have a common set of facts anymore to base all these debates

0:19.2

on.

0:20.2

No, you're absolutely right.

0:21.2

It's the biggest problem we have.

0:22.5

I'd like to share and recommend a new documentary podcast series called Fate of Fact written

0:27.6

in Naira about Pulitzer Prize winning historian and bestselling author John Meacham.

0:32.9

America has always been a country of competing visions, a nation shaped by the push and pull

0:38.1

of vigorous debate.

0:39.8

But now that fragile consensus to find truth feels fundamentally broken.

0:44.4

Give me, I couldn't agree more.

0:46.1

You and I disagree about a lot in politics, but I think you're a patriot.

0:50.0

I think you're my opponent, not my enemy, because we can have a fair debate about different

0:55.6

issues, where at least we agree on the facts by which we measure the problem and measure

1:00.0

success.

1:01.0

So our friend John Meacham, a very thoughtful guy, many of you might have read some of

1:04.6

his excellent books, is addressing this in this new podcast series.

1:08.3

So join John Meacham in Fate of Fact.

1:11.4

Is he explains how and why fear and power have conquered truth and why respect for data

1:16.5

in fact has become a casualty of war in the United States?

1:20.6

Fate of Fact, a new audio documentary from Shining City Audio, a John Meacham and C-13

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