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The David Greene Show

The David Greene Show with Shane Sanders | EP 81

The David Greene Show

David Greene

Entrepreneurship, Business

5653 Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

SUMMARY

BRRRR’s not dead, it’s surely alive! In today’s show, David interviews Shane Spencer, an investor out of WA state who’s found a way to combine ADU development, BRRRR, House Hacking, property development to develop a strategy that’s allowed him to scale to nine properties and counting. Shane shares his simple but profound method of buying cheap properties with the right amenities and improving their value to find cash flow where others miss it. This interview is both eye opening and detail oriented as David picks apart Shane’s strategy to reveal how the different components fit together and the listener can replicate. Using principles found in David’s “Better Than Cash Flow” book, Shane is crushing it with solid fundamentals at a time where other investors struggle to keep the boat afloat. You’ll want to listen to this episode several times. Download today!

CHAPTERS

Introduction to Real Talk Real Estate - 0:00 - 1:00

Shane Sanders' Investment Strategy - 1:01 - 5:30

Challenges with City Regulations - 5:31 - 10:00

Building Properties - 10:01 - 15:00

Financing and Cash Flow Strategies - 15:01 - 20:00

Market Trends and Real Estate Insights - 20:01 - 25:00

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Real Talk Real Estate, the show where we cover how to build wealth in real estate with no fluff, no BS, and no sales pitches. I'm David Green, and I've been doing this for over 10 years. I've seen the ups, the downs, and everything in between. This is the show where we pull back the curtain and show it to you too. So if you want to build wealth through real estate or you just love learning about it, you found your home. What's going on everyone?

0:02.4

Welcome to Real Talk Real Estate.

0:03.9

This is the David Green. wealthy real estate or you just love learning about it. You found your home. What's going on

0:22.0

everyone? Welcome to Real Talk Real Estate. This is the David Green Show with a fantastic episode

0:27.3

for everybody. We're going to be speaking with Shane Sanders, an investor who has figured out a way

0:32.2

to maximize his properties for either maximum cash flow or maximum value, depending on if he's going to be

0:38.2

keeping or holding. And he has been gracious enough to come on the show today and share his

0:42.5

strategy, his challenges, and the way that he's executing this. So if you're an investor who is

0:47.3

committed to succeeding in real estate, first off, thank you for listening to the podcast. I love

0:51.3

you. And second of all, you're probably frustrated that there haven't been a lot of actual like effective strategies you're going to be working in today's market. And this is one that I think could actually work. Shane told me about it. And I said, hey, we need to come on and we need to talk about this and share it with the people. So Shane, thank you for joining me today. Of course. I'm happy to be here.

1:12.4

Yeah, I'm happy to have you.

1:09.4

One of the things that I usually tell guests before we record, but I'm actually going to be telling you while we're on air, is that if you do this podcast, you are contractually and legally obligated to do all of your loans with the one brokerage from this point forward. Just kidding. You're going to want to once I introduce you to one of the guys.

1:27.9

And I'm actually going to talk to my partner after our show and see if we can find a loan product that'll work specifically for what you do. Because my guess would be that would be one of the parts that might be tougher about this, but we'll have you share what your experience has been like so far. Before we get into that, why don't you just give us an overview of what your strategy is and how you came about doing this?

1:47.0

Yeah, so basically my strategy is buying single-family homes in my market, which is central Washington that are on large alley lots and then building two ADUs on the lot.

2:00.0

And then basically what I do from there is I condoize the property because I'm not going to be. and then building two ADUs on the lot.

2:05.2

And then basically what I do from there is I condoize the property because I'm not allowed to subdivide it.

2:06.7

Sometimes I can if it's a really large lot and it just works out.

2:10.5

But more often than not, I can't.

2:12.1

So then I go through Washington condo law, condo the property into three separate parcels. And that way I can either do,

2:19.8

I can either sell or finance them separately. So basically what I do is I will do cash out refis.

2:25.4

So it's basically a modification of the, the Burr method. Now, it seems like you said Alley lot.

2:39.2

So I'm thinking this probably has to do with the fact that you need access from the back of it, not just the front. Is that why?

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