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Hello, it's Lucy Hockings and Brussels.

And it's Vitalis Chevchenko also in Brussels.

It's 771 days since Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

And Vatale and I are here in Brussels, we are sitting on a very nice, very comfortable, quite plush couch in the British Ambassador's official residence.

It's a lovely building, Batali.

It's opulent.

There are lovely gilded decorations in the walls lots of mirrors lots of

statues ancient clocks and chandeliers very ornate very ornate very gauntlet, very pompous. It used to be a hotel.

I wouldn't have mind of staying here back in the day.

Me neither.

But it can't be further removed from the essence of what we're going to be talking about the war.

Yeah, it's a bit of a special Ukraine cast, an important episode for us, especially for

our listeners in the UK because we are here to speak to the UK's Foreign Secretary David Cameron.

He's here in Brussels right now for the NATO summit.

It's taking place as we record our pod.

World leaders right now really expressing their concern about the

possibility of the war spilling over into Europe because we're seeing it

emboldened Vladimir Putin and of course there is this possibility on the horizon of a second Trump White House.

So we wanted to ask David Cameron, we're going to ask him, what role can and will the UK play in supporting keep. So shall we do this for

darling? Let's go Lucy. This is a crane cast. Ukraine is an epicenter of unbearable heart rage and pain.

Millions of people are without heating, without water.

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