The Darkest Web: 6. My brother, the abuser
World of Secrets
BBC
4.7 • 765 Ratings
🗓️ 23 March 2026
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
The time has come to arrest Alisa’s brother, Staton Grubert. Thirty armed agents commando crawl up a dirt track to his trailer in Texas. Staton has no idea that his time is up. Will Alisa finally get closure?
And in a state in the South West, Greg is reunited with Lucy, the girl who had been abused for six years.
This podcast includes some upsetting scenes and discussions of child sexual abuse.
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Reporter and Presenter: Sam Piranty Writer and Producer: Annabel Deas Script advice: Matt Willis Sound design: Neil Churchill Composer: Rob Lewis Executive Producer: Rebecca Henschke Commissioning Senior Producer: Sarah Green Commissioning Editor: Jon Manel
The Darkest Web is a BBC Eye production for the BBC World Service.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
| 0:07.0 | An early start here. It's time to kick off. |
| 0:10.0 | Your day. Morning! |
| 0:11.9 | What a line-up. |
| 0:13.3 | Oh, thanks very much. We do get some great guests on the show. |
| 0:16.1 | The crowd is loving this. |
| 0:18.3 | Thanks, guys. Thank you. Too kind. |
| 0:20.2 | From morning chaos to match day commentary. |
| 0:23.6 | And everything in between. |
| 0:25.0 | BBC sounds packed with personality. |
| 0:29.3 | You're about to listen to the final episode of The Darkest Web. |
| 0:34.2 | Keep listening at the end to find out more about the next world of secrets investigations. |
| 0:40.2 | Hey, it's Sam. Just a warning before we start, this episode contains references to child and infant sexual abuse. |
| 0:51.1 | In Sweden, an undercover police officer is staring at her screen. |
| 0:57.0 | She's examining the evidence which will be used to convict a Swedish man who has been sexually |
| 1:03.0 | abusing his three-year-old niece. The man has recorded videos of his abuse, which he shared |
| 1:10.0 | on the dark web. |
| 1:13.6 | The investigator is carefully analysing the evidence when she spots something, |
| 1:19.6 | a name that she recognises, |
| 1:21.6 | and that she thinks belongs to a paedophile in America. |
| 1:30.7 | So she picks up the phone and calls her US counterpart, |
| 1:36.0 | Special Agent Greg Squire at the Department for Homeland Security. |
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