The Darkest Web: 4. Undercover
World of Secrets
BBC
4.7 • 765 Ratings
🗓️ 9 March 2026
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
After they rescue Lucy, Greg and Pete discover the dark web community is even bigger than they thought. There are hundreds of websites each sharing different images of different kinds of child sexual abuse. Overwhelmed by what they have found online and the sheer scale of the problem, Greg makes a decision to go undercover. He will go online on the dark web and talk to the paedophiles directly. They have to do everything they can to try to stop the abusers.
This podcast includes some upsetting scenes and discussions of child sexual abuse.
For further information on the issues raised in the programme, contact support organisations in your own country. For a list of organisations in the UK that can provide support go to bbc.co.uk/actionline.
Reporter and Presenter: Sam Piranty Writer and Producer: Annabel Deas Script advice: Matt Willis Sound design: Neil Churchill Composer: Rob Lewis Executive Producer: Rebecca Henschke Commissioning Senior Producer: Sarah Green Commissioning Editor: Jon Manel
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio Podcasts. |
| 0:05.6 | Hello, I've just nipped in before your BBC podcast starts to tell you all about |
| 0:09.4 | You're Dead to Me. We're the comedy podcast that takes history seriously. Also from the BBC |
| 0:13.9 | and presented by me, Greg Jenner. I should have told you that at the beginning. Sorry. |
| 0:17.9 | Anyway, like many other BBC podcasts, such as Desert Island Discs, Evil Genius, or In Our Time, your dead to me is available first on BBC Sounds, |
| 0:26.3 | a whole month earlier than anywhere else, in fact. So if you can't wait another day to hear |
| 0:31.2 | the very latest in history and loads of other good stuff, then listen first on BBC Sounds. |
| 0:36.5 | Episodes of World of Secrets are released weekly, wherever you get your BBC podcasts. |
| 0:42.4 | But if you can't wait, you can listen to the latest episode now, a week early. |
| 0:47.7 | First on BBC Sounds. |
| 0:50.0 | Hey, it's Sam. Just a warning before we start, this episode contains references to child and infant sexual abuse. |
| 1:03.3 | Most of us spend a bit too much time on the internet. |
| 1:08.3 | But even though you visited thousands of websites, there are places online |
| 1:12.3 | you'll probably never see. Places that you wouldn't want to see. But places that special |
| 1:19.5 | agents Greg Squire and Pete Manning need to see to do their work. Encrypted spaces protected |
| 1:27.3 | by some of the most sophisticated criminals on the planet. |
| 1:31.5 | Where the only people welcome are those committing or encouraging child sexual abuse. |
| 1:39.0 | We came up with so many crazy ideas and tried most of them. |
| 1:44.1 | We pushed the boundaries of what we ever thought was |
| 1:48.0 | possible, like just, especially when it came to these closed rooms trying to get, can you imagine |
| 1:54.9 | trying to infiltrate like a gang or a mob where, you know, the only way you were admitted entrance is if you were to |
| 2:04.9 | sexually abuse a child, how do you do that? How do you get in there? And that was our challenge. |
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