Welcome to Back from the Abyss. I'm Dr. Craig Hecock. If you haven't yet filled out the Back from the Abyss listeners poll, please do so.

You can link to that in the show notes. We are giving you all the chance to give us feedback what

we're doing well, what we could improve on, who you are, and also ideas and thoughts for coming

episodes. And for those of you who have already filled out the questionnaire, thank you.

And there's already been a lot of really helpful feedback and ideas for coming episodes.

So thank you.

Secondly, I just wanted to say a little bit about the comment I got on the

underground psilocybin therapist episode.

So I have a dear friend who's a therapist, and he's an Eniogram 8 challenger.

Surprise, surprise.

Seems like everyone in my life is a challenger, including my wife, Chris Johnson, my co-conspirator on this project.

Anyway, my therapist, good friend, Ete,

he said to me, hey, I really like that episode, but why are you platforming illegal activity?

He said, because what she's doing is illegal, and you've done this before on your podcast,

and why are you doing this? And I told him and I'll just spread

this all to you because I think others might be wondering, I'm all about harm reduction.

You know, I'm an addiction specialist among other things and I realize that we're not looking

for perfection. We're looking to do what's going to cause the most good and the least harm.

And, you know, underground work is happening.

It's happening big time. It's exploding.

And I wanted to, if you will, platform a woman, Sarah, who I think is doing really thoughtful, mindful,

ethical work, and has thought a lot about underground psilocybin work and has been doing it

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