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The Ben Shapiro Show

The Dark Side of Fairy Tales | Jonathan Pageau

The Ben Shapiro Show

The Daily Wire

News, News Commentary

4.4152.4K Ratings

🗓️ 6 October 2024

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Jonathan Pageau is a French-Canadian liturgical artist, writer, and public speaker on religious philosophy, symbolism, and Orthodox Christianity. Pageau’s commentary can be found on his YouTube channel, “The Symbolic World,” as well as in Dr. Jordan B. Peterson’s 17-part “Exodus” seminar and The Daily Wire’s latest series, “Foundations of the West.” In today’s episode, Jonathan and I discuss the biblical themes found in classical fairy tales like “Jack and the Beanstalk,” and the important role that storytelling plays in establishing our most deeply held cultural norms. Pageau also speaks to the modern uses of symbolism, from the prevalence of conspiracy theories to the real meaning behind the opening ceremony at the Paris Olympics. Stay tuned, and welcome back to another episode of the Sunday Special.   - - -    Today’s Sponsors:   ExpressVPN - Get 3 Months FREE of ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/ben   ZipRecruiter - Try ZipRecruiter for FREE: https://www.ziprecruiter.comdailywire   Tax Network USA - Seize control of your financial future! Call 1 (800) 958-1000 or visit https://www.TNUSA.com/Shapiro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The scene in the opening of the Olympics, it wasn't a political statement.

0:04.1

It was presented imagistically in story terms with certain cultural elements.

0:10.5

And so we try to answer politically, but when you do that, they just say, well, no, you're

0:16.1

misunderstanding.

0:17.1

And then they start to gaslight and to shift.

0:19.6

What we need to learn to do, and that's why I don't talk about politics that much.

0:23.6

I talk about stories and I try to tell stories,

0:26.6

is because that's the best way to answer.

0:28.6

These stories that have been with us for millennia and that kind of uphold our civilization,

0:32.6

if we can understand them and then present them again to the world

0:36.6

in a way that that is clear,

0:39.4

then those stories win because they're the true story.

0:42.2

Jonathan Pajot is a French-Canadian liturgical artist, writer and public speaker on religious

0:46.5

philosophy, symbolism, and Orthodox Christianity. Pajot first rose to prominence through his

0:51.0

popular YouTube channel, The Symbolic World, or his interpretations of mythical patterns have attracted more than 20 million viewers.

0:57.9

Pajot is also the founder of Symbolic World Press, a publishing company specializing

1:01.6

in high-quality books which aim to revive the beauty of ancient storytelling.

1:05.2

Here at the Daily Wire, Pajos' spiritual and philosophical insights have been featured in

1:08.8

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson's 17-part Exodus seminar,

1:11.4

as well as in Jordan's most recent series, Foundations of the West.

1:14.8

In today's episode, Jonathan and I discussed the biblical themes that can be found in classical fairy tales

1:18.8

like Jack and the Beanstalk and the important role storytelling plays in establishing our most

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