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Hey everybody, welcome back to the Busy Mom podcast. You have found Heidi St. John along

with Duranda Wilson at the little Busy Mom corner of the internet. You can find us also

on iTunes by searching for the Busy Mom and you can find me at HeidiStJohn.com or you

can go to the Busy Mom. They both go to the same place. So you're in luck. We are going

to, we've got kind of some heavy stuff to talk about today. There's a lot of weird things.

Is it just me? I don't know why we continue to be shocked, but it still shocks me.

Yeah, the news and every time we, I mean, my sense is funny. I was downstairs last night

cooking dinner and, uh, Jay came into the kitchen and usually when he comes in the kitchen,

he's, you know, he's a kissing me or something. So he comes in the kitchen and say, Sydney,

one of our younger daughters comes up because I'm just so happy when dad comes into the

kitchen. I said, why? And she goes, because then you talk about happy things. And I was

like, okay, I'm going to stop talking about the news because it's been, uh, kind of hard

to watch lately. I don't know if it's, uh, if it's just me, but it's been, uh, kind of

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