The Daily Presents “Caliphate,” Chapter 6

The Daily

The New York Times

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🗓️ 26 May 2018

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

The New York Times has introduced a documentary audio series that follows Rukmini Callimachi, who covers terrorism for The Times, on her quest to understand ISIS. Today, as a special episode of “The Daily,” we offer Chapter 6 of “Caliphate,” in which Rukmini’s doubt fuels a quest to uncover the truth. For more information about the series, visit nytimes.com/caliphate. This episode includes disturbing language and scenes of graphic violence.

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0:00.0	From the New York Times and the team that brought you the daily, this is Caliphate.
0:20.0	Did it go straight to voicemail? Did it ring first?
0:29.0	It went straight to voicemail when I called in this morning too.
0:54.0	Sorry, there's no room to record.
1:03.0	Can you just fill me in on microphone?
1:11.0	I got a text message from our source.
1:25.0	I'm sorry, I just came to my house and interviewed me.
1:42.0	We were supposed to meet back up with him.
1:57.0	This is CES.
2:00.0	This is the Canadian intelligence branch.
2:07.0	I mean, the timing of that was just really odd.
2:12.0	Of course, the first thought was my phone being tracked or perhaps was he under surveillance and didn't realize that he was being tracked.
2:21.0	To this day, I don't know if there's a connection between me seeing him and authorities coming the next day.
2:27.0	I tried to find out one of the things that Hussief sent me was a picture of the business card of the CESA agent who had interviewed him that morning.
2:35.0	I called that number repeatedly. I left messages. Nobody called me back.
2:40.0	So normally, I would hang around. I would call my editors and ask for a couple more days on the ground.
2:46.0	I would try to go to his house. I would maybe go to his place of work.
2:50.0	I would see if I could re-engage with him.
2:53.0	But I didn't have time to do that because at the very moment that we had gone to see Hussief.
2:58.0	Iraqi troops could at any moment enter Mosul, which has been under ISIS control for more than two years.
3:05.0	The battle to take back the city of Mosul was ramping up.
3:11.0	So it's 9.22 a.m. on November 29th. This is my first morning in Iraq.
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