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I'm your host Greg Sergeant.

Politico is reporting that some Republicans are worried about Donald Trump's

reaction to his criminal conviction in Manhattan. They say Trump is overly focused on

using the verdict to lather up his base and should be more concerned about the

likelihood that it could alienate swing voters. We think this gets at something essential about

Trump and the MAGA movement itself, that Trump and MAGA leaders cannot accept the very

idea that their Trump-centric obsessions might be off putting to swing voters.

Seeing these obsessions as a political liability is impossible for MAGA.

To help sort through all these pathologies, Today we're talking to Washington Post reporter

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