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I'm your host, Greg Sergeant. With two weeks to go until election day, the presidential race couldn't be closer. But if Kamala Harris is to win, how exactly

would that happen? What's the path to defeating Donald Trump? Veteran political

journalist Ron Brownstein has a new piece in the Atlantic laying out what Harris's path to victory does look like.

The short version is that she has to run up truly massive margins in cities and affluent suburbs, while limiting Trump's gains among

non-white and working-class white voters. That may sound unsurprising, but the details

on how this might actually unfold are complicated, interesting, fraught with bizarre

uncertainties and actually plausible if difficult. So we invited Brownstein on the show to explain all of it.

Great to have you back on Ron. Greg, thanks for having me again. Okay Ron, so the basic geography of this race is

that the most plausible path for Harris is to win the Blue Wall States of Pennsylvania, Michigan

and Wisconsin as always. This requires piling up huge margins in places like

Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, Madison, and Detroit, but critically you report that the Harris

campaign actually believes they have room to grow in the suburbs around these places because suburbanites women in particular are really

recoiling from Trump right now. Can you walk us through all these details?

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