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The Lawfare Podcast

The D.C. Circuit Rejects Trump

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🗓️ 15 December 2021

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals last week issued a surprisingly under-discussed opinion in the case of Trump v. Thompson, which involves the production of the executive branch and White House records to the January 6 committee. The opinion of a three-judge panel is a decisive rejection of Trump's assertions of executive privilege after leaving office. It also has potential implications for the witnesses who are refusing to testify before the committee. To chew it all over, Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare congressional guru Molly Reynolds, Lawfare contributor and University of Kentucky College of Law professor Jonathan Shaub, and Lawfare senior editor Scott R. Anderson. They talked about the opinion itself, what it holds and what it means, what it means for the witnesses who were holding out, whether it will stand, and how the committee is doing in general.

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0:25.6

no bull and the aftermath.

0:31.2

Right laptop, I'm ready to finish this thesis.

0:34.2

What thesis?

0:35.2

The one I've spent two years working on.

0:36.7

Don't have it.

0:37.7

What's the last version you saved?

0:39.4

Got final version, final final version, and no, I'm actually serious now.

0:42.9

This is the last version I will never save another version I promise, version two.

0:46.7

Surely that one?

0:47.7

No.

0:48.7

Why?

0:49.7

It's corrupted.

0:50.7

Oh, thanks.

1:01.5

Save it again.

1:08.5

If we see a meadows indictment, it will be drawn very similarly.

1:11.8

It's drawn to really avoid some of the questions, even the questions that are raised in the

1:15.4

DC Circuit opinion, to sort of make that not an issue.

1:19.4

So I think you can see this civil enforcement and they would have this opinion and can say

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