Hey everybody, welcome back to Gear 30 on the Blister podcast network where we are very

proudly based out of Elevation Hotel in our hometown of Crested Butte, Colorado.

I'm Jonathan Ellsworth, the founder of Blister and you, as always, can check out everything

we're doing and reviewing over at blisterreview.com and on our YouTube channels, Blister Review

and Blister Studios.

Okay, today we are running another conversation that we recently had at our Blister Summit at Snowbird,

and our guests are Hoji, our patron Saint of Gear 30, Jeff Colt from Zipfit, Shane Chappell

from Burton, and Will Ritter from Spark R&D. And at the very beginning of this conversation, we make reference to the panel session that

took place at the summit just before this one.

And you should certainly listen to it if you haven't already.

We recently published it over on our Blister podcast.

It is episode number 404. And we will also leave a link to it

in the show notes of this episode. Okay, now before we get going here, two things. First, I am

recording this introduction while I am here in Washington, D.C., and very shortly I am about to head over to the Library of Congress with

Mike Rogie, where he will be giving his talk this evening. It has been a really good time in

D.C. so far, and I've had a number of great meetings with senators and representatives about

health care and what we've got going

with this whole Blister Plus thing.

So that has been very interesting.

We are going to see where it all goes.

But I think for those of us who mostly just see and hear the most incendiary and polarizing figures from either political party.

Well, it's been really great and refreshing to meet and speak with some very sharp, very high-energy

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