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Hack It Out Golf

The Current State of the OWGR

Hack It Out Golf

Golf Swing Productions by Mark Crossfield Greg Chalmers and Lou Stagner

Sports, Education, Golf

4.7267 Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

A veteran LIV golfer finished in the top 50 at the Open Championship—and rose over 3,000 places in the OWGR. Maybe something is amiss with the OWGR? In this episode, Mark and Lou discuss the current state of golf rankings: the OWGR and some of its competitors, including the Data Golf rankings. What do we want from a professional golf ranking system?

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0:00.0

Let's talk world rankings. Interesting comment from Lee Westwood in the, I don't know where it was quoted saying, but it's been flying around online this week. Lee Westwood tied 34th at the open. He skyrocketed 3,759 spots in the world ranking to number 930.

0:19.2

Nice. Yeah, because I guess half of those three, most of those 3,759 weren't allowed to play that

0:25.9

week because they weren't in the open.

0:28.6

I'm guessing they, that's true.

0:31.0

He called the order of the world ranking system a bit of a mockery of a system.

0:36.0

Without world ranking points, it makes a bit of a mockery of this system.

0:39.9

We either start to get world ranking points on live,

0:43.6

or the majors have to revise how they do their qualifying,

0:47.7

is kind of what he has said.

0:49.8

Now, I posted this to my audience on Facebook as well. What did they say?

0:54.7

Believe it or not, let's have a little doubt in.

0:57.4

Facebook is still there, if anyone is wondering.

1:00.3

Yeah, I did not know that.

1:03.6

Yeah, I did post it on Facebook.

1:06.4

My mom probably saw it.

1:08.3

Yeah.

1:09.7

My mom's on Facebook, man. Yeah, it is a bit like it. Yeah. My mom's on Facebook, man.

1:11.9

Yeah, it is a bit like that.

1:14.5

I think you can guess what was said.

1:16.7

I'll give you a flavor of what was said.

1:18.9

Ian said, live his glorified exhibition goal.

1:22.0

No way you should get order of merit points.

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