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The curious case of Sweden (revisited)

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🗓️ 29 April 2021

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

During the coronavirus pandemic, Sweden’s approach has been different to most western European nations. But a year on, how have the Swedes fared, and did their government let them walk into a second wave? 

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Guest: Daniel Öhman, investigative journalist at Sweden Public Radio.

Host: Manveen Rana.

Clips used: Channel 4, CBS News, TODAY and Sveriges Radio.

On the 16th April, 2020, Manveen spoke to the Sunday Times' Middle East correspondent Louise Callaghan about life in Sweden: Listen to that episode on the 'Curious case of Sweden'.

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0:00.0

Sweden, throughout this pandemic, it's the one country that's done things differently.

0:07.9

Last spring, a scientist scurried to understand the virus and governments did their best to

0:14.0

control it. We watched a wave of countries across the world, like slow falling dominoes

0:21.0

going into lockdown one by one. But as the rest of Europe emptied the streets and

0:26.9

batten down the hatches, Sweden was the exception.

0:30.9

While much of the world is locking down in efforts to contain the spread of the virus,

0:34.7

not all the countries are taking the same approach. In Sweden, life is just a little quieter

0:39.6

than normal. Many businesses and schools are open.

0:42.7

They issued some advice, put in place a few restrictions, but apart from that, life carried

0:48.4

on more or less as normal. It's been held up as a paragon by libertarians all over the

0:54.9

world. And now, a year on, we have enough data to see how Sweden actually did. Was there

1:02.1

approach a success? Or did it cost too many lives?

1:06.3

We're used to being top of the class when it comes to health issues.

1:12.7

You're listening to stories of our times from the times and the Sunday times. I'm Manveen

1:17.3

Rana. Today, the curious case of Sweden revisited.

1:28.4

Back in April last year, on this podcast, I spoke to Louise Callahan, the Sunday Times

1:33.8

Middle East correspondent. At the time, she was isolating on the west coast of her native

1:39.5

Sweden.

1:40.5

And of course, it's strange talking to friends in London who are under lockdown, they're

1:43.9

saying, well, I've barely left the house for weeks. It's enormously different to say

1:49.0

the UK.

1:50.0

If you look at almost all polls done as Swedish people, you'll see that they trust the

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