Hello, and welcome to the long awaited crypto episode of Slate Money, your guide to the business and finance news of everything crypto.

This is something a lot of you guys have been asking for.

We get a lot of emails from people saying,

can you get someone who actually knows what they're talking about to talk to us about crypto

rather than just getting a bunch of snarkmongers to snark about NFDs?

We have listened to you. So I am Felix Hammond of

Axios. I'm here with Emily Peck of Fundrise. Hello, hello. I'm here with Stacey Marie Ishmael.

Of no affiliation. Of no affiliation. But definitely crypto adjacent in some way. And most excitingly, we have Maya Sahavi, who's going to

basically spend the next hour telling us everything that you ever need to know about crypto.

Maya, welcome. And who are you? Thanks for having me. I'm crypto investor who's been in this space, both on the enterprise

and the wild west of D5 for the past seven years. And you're based where?

Tel Aviv is real. This is the one great thing about pandemic era podcasting is it's just as easy

to get someone on the show from Tel Aviv. It used to be we used to insist on people coming into the studio in Brooklyn.

I have no idea when that's going to happen again.

Maya, you are going to tell us just an absolute smorgasbord of information about privacy, defy, what that is,

exchanges, regulation, the dream of where we can wind up in this brave new

world of crypto, who's doing it well, who's doing it badly, who's making money off it, what

kind of ways the world will change. It's an absolutely wonderful conversation. Thank you so much

for coming on the show and all of that is coming up on Slate

money. So let's start with the very, very big picture, Maya. The main thing everyone knows about

crypto is that there's this thing called Bitcoin and it goes up in value and if you want to make lots of money, you can buy Bitcoin and then get rich.

And then if you worry that Bitcoin has already gone up and isn't going to go up anymore,

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