It's about financial inclusion, right?

There's something like 80% of Americans feel that the current financial system's not working for them.

And crypto is this great democratizing force in terms of access to financial services.

Hello, hello, and welcome to the conversation.

I'm Dasha Burns.

And every week on this show, I talk to the most compelling and sometimes unexpected power players in Washington and beyond.

And this week, I sat down with Brian Armstrong, co-founder and CEO of Coinbase.

Coinbase is the largest cryptocurrency exchange in the world.

And Armstrong has become the top crypto lobbyist in Washington.

With that, he's been vocal with his thoughts on how the government should approach regulation.

I think Americans should be able to earn more money on their money.

Banks should have to compete on a level playing field.

And if the American people feel like the banks are not paying high enough interest rates,

and stable coin rewards can offer them more, then maybe the banks should have to pay higher interest rates to compete.

So as the cryptocurrency regulation debate rages on with legislation like the Clarity Act,

I pressed Armstrong on how he sees this fight in his industry playing out.

And folks, it is a fight.

The Clarity Act asks legislators to answer the question,

should crypto and classical banking be regulated in the same way? And it represents the new

battle in the world of finance as crypto comes to Washington looking to compete with the political

power of traditional banking. But before we dig into the world of

crypto, please take a moment to make sure you're subscribed wherever you're watching or listening.

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