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In the last two episodes of the Useless Information Podcast, we followed 93-year-old Marvin

Loutzenheiser from his time growing up in small-tenile high, through his days in college,

to his FBI field assignment in Charlotte, North Carolina, and through the work that his

team did in cracking the microfilm that was hidden inside the hollow nickel that helped

capture Soviet spy Rudolph Abel.

Well, today in Part 3, Marvin Loutzenheiser's decision to leave the FBI is 17 years

consulting with the Pentagon to model theoretical future nuclear wars. His patents that are still

in use on computer storage devices today, plus you'll get to hear music being played on his

monster-sized theater organ that he installed in his home. All that and more is coming up next

in the final installment of the Cryptanalyst. I am Steve Soldman and this is the Useless Information

Podcast. Welcome back. As I mentioned, this is the third and final segment of my interview with

Marvin, and in this first section, Marvin will talk a little bit more about his boss downing,

then he'll comment a bit more on the nickel case, and then he's going to go on to discuss a

different case. That's the brown green case that he was assigned to deal with.

The interesting thing about that one is that he should have never gotten it. As you'll hear,

it was just a little slip of the tongue by then FBI director Jager Hoover that made him have to

deal with this. This is not a significantly important case, but I included just to give you a

little bit of an insight into the power that Hoover wielded while he was in charge of the bureau.

So let's listen in. And what was Downing's first name, do you remember?

Yes, Churchill. That's an unusual one.

Yes, Churchill Downing. He had been divorced. His only life was the bureau, and it didn't matter.

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