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Robert Wright's Nonzero

The Critical State of Israel (Robert Wright & Daniel Levy)

Robert Wright's Nonzero

Nonzero

News & Politics, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.7618 Ratings

🗓️ 2 May 2023

⏱️ 65 minutes

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0:00 Israel’s many issues 2:52 How ugly could Israel’s judicial reform crisis get? 11:11 Are Palestinian citizens of Israel really under “apartheid”? 18:10 The demographic and ideological sources of Israel’s instability 32:44 If the two-state solution is dead, now what? 43:40 How might an increasingly multipolar world affect Israel? 59:22 Why climate change makes Israel-Palestine even more dire

Robert Wright (Bloggingheads.tv, The Evolution of God, Nonzero, Why Buddhism Is True) and Daniel Levy (Prospects for Peace, NAF, The Century Foundation). Recorded May 01, 2023.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast.

0:32.9

Hi, Daniel.

0:35.8

Hi, Bob.

0:37.1

How you doing?

0:38.6

I'm very well.

0:40.4

Glad to hear that.

0:41.4

Let me introduce us.

0:42.9

I'm Robert Wright, publisher with Non-Zero Newsletter.

0:45.5

This is a Non-Zero podcast.

0:47.5

You are Daniel Levy, and for one thing, you're a longtime friend of mine.

0:53.3

But you're also president of the U.S.

0:56.1

Middle East Project, which we'll talk about.

1:00.3

And in that capacity, I guess, you not so long ago testified before the UN Security Council.

1:05.2

People can Google that if the following conversation doesn't satisfy them.

1:10.7

Now, you are a longstanding student of his. if the following conversation doesn't satisfy them.

1:19.8

Now, you are a longstanding student of Israeli politics, Israeli geopolitics, and in particular of Israel-Palestine issues.

1:22.7

In fact, I think you were a couple decades ago involved in negotiations.

1:27.2

Israel-Palestine negotiations, Am I misremembering or...

1:30.3

No, no, you're correctly remembering. It stretches a bit further back than that. I was actually a negotiator under Robin in the so-called Oslo II, Oslo B Accords in the mid-90s and then at the very beginning of

1:46.3

the noughties at the end of 2001 under then Prime Minister Barak. This time as a political

1:55.4

appointment, I was on the negotiating team at Taba in the Israeli-Palestinian peace talk.

2:01.8

Okay, I definitely want to talk about that before we're done.

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