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Explain It to Me

The critical race theory debate

Explain It to Me

Vox Media Podcast Network

Education, Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.47.9K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2021

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Matt is joined by Education Week reporter and editor Andrew Ujifusa to talk about the ill-defined and somewhat facetious debate over critical race theory. But really, this conversation is about the schools, and all sorts of issues facing them: pandemic learning loss, re-opening plans, and the perennial debates over how best to serve all students, particularly students of color. We are conducting an audience survey to better serve you. It takes about five minutes, and it really helps out the show. Please take our survey here: vox.com/survey Resources: "'Stop CRT' Bill, Votes in Congress Add to Political Drama Over Critical Race Theory" by Andrew Ujifusa (Education Week; July 15) "How to Manufacture a Moral Panic: Christopher Rufo helped incite an uproar over racism education with dramatic, dodgy reporting" by Sarah Jones (New York; July 11) "Randi Weingarten Rips CRT Critics for 'Trying to Stop Us From Teaching Students Accurate History'" by John Nichols (The Nation; July 9) Guest: Andrew Ujifusa (@AndrewUjifusa), Assistant Editor, Education Week Host: Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias), Slowboring.com Credits: Erikk Geannikis (@erikk38), Producer Ness Smith-Savedoff, Engineer As the Biden administration gears up, we'll help you understand this unprecedented burst of policymaking. Sign up for The Weeds newsletter each Friday: vox.com/weeds-newsletter. The Weeds is a Vox Media Podcast Network production. Want to support The Weeds? Please consider making a contribution to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts About Vox Vox is a news network that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Follow Us: Vox.com Facebook group: The Weeds Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I hate you guys, I'm my guest today, Andrew Jafouset, is somebody who I have been wanting

0:44.9

to have on the show for a long time.

0:47.0

We actually worked together a long time ago, now back in college, on the school paper.

0:52.6

I was the editor-in-chief, he was a sports editor.

0:55.1

We are not talking about sports today, he's now a great education journalist.

0:59.8

We had a conversation that's about the critical race theory debate.

1:03.6

Most of the coverage of this I've seen has either gone way off into the academic weeds,

1:09.5

talking about critical race theory scholars or it's gotten super political, looking at

1:15.2

sort of Republican party tactics and their machinations.

1:19.1

Andrew really helps us understand in this conversation what is actually happening inside

1:23.8

schools and school systems, what the pressures are on educators, what parents' concerns are,

1:30.2

and what implications all of this has for kids and for society, what really matters here,

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