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The criminal charges that could send Trump to prison

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🗓️ 16 June 2023

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

This week, Donald Trump became the first US president to be charged with a federal crime. This came less than three months after he was indicted in New York on separate state charges. Why is this time more serious?

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0:00.0

The man whose name is Dominic, he's wearing a white and black pinstripe prison outfit.

0:27.7

He leaped off the sidewalk toward the former president's motorcade and Mr. Trump's vehicle

0:31.8

as he left the courthouse, the secret service swooped in, tackled him to the ground and put

0:36.2

him in cuffs, earlier he was walking around with a sign that said arrest him referring

0:40.7

of course to Donald Trump.

0:49.8

On Tuesday in Miami, Donald Trump became the first president to the United States to be

0:55.6

charged with a federal crime.

1:07.0

It feels a bit like a witch hunt to me.

1:09.0

I think that if you're going to investigate Trump, you should investigate both sides.

1:13.5

As Donald Trump very eloquently says, when they're coming after him, they're really looking

1:18.2

to come after us.

1:26.3

You may also have a strong feeling of deja vu.

1:28.8

Haven't we been here before?

1:30.3

There's only less than three months ago that Trump was in a state courthouse in New York,

1:34.7

pleading not guilty to 34 felony counts over all that business with hush money in the

1:39.8

porn star.

1:41.5

But there is something different going on here.

1:43.9

Trump's former attorney general Bill Barr thought so on Fox News of All Places.

1:48.0

It's a very detailed indictment and it's very, very damning.

1:53.2

If even half of it is true, then he's toast.

2:01.8

You're listening to stories of our times from the times and the Sunday times.

2:05.5

I'm Luke Jones.

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