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🗓️ 25 March 2021
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In 1902, a Swedish American pastor named Henning Jacobson refused to get the smallpox vaccine. This launched a chain of events that landed the Massachusetts pastor in a landmark 1905 Supreme Court case in which the Court considered the delicate balancing act between individual liberty over our bodies and our duty to one another.
"We can be grateful for his work here [while] at the same time also saying the dude was terribly mistaken about this one thing for which, unfortunately, he's most famous now,” says Pastor Robin Lutjohann, who today leads the church that Jacobson founded, originally a haven for Swedish immigrants.
The Jacobson v. Massachusetts decision made clear that the government could mandate vaccination, arguing that collective good sometimes outweighs individual rights. But the line between the two is blurry. More than two decades after Jacobson’s case, the Court used the same logic in another decision, one the historian Michael Willrich says is among the “scariest U.S. Supreme Court decisions of all time.”
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This episode was produced by Julia Longoria and Gabrielle Berbey, with editing by Katherine Wells. Fact-check by Will Gordon. Sound design by David Herman.
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0:00.0 | Hello, this is Robin. |
0:14.0 | Hi, is this the Swedish Lutheran Church in Cambridge? |
0:20.0 | We haven't been that in a very long time, but yes, this is, I'm the pastor of faith Lutheran Church. |
0:29.0 | How can I help you? |
0:31.0 | Oh, okay. Thank you. |
0:33.0 | I'm working on a story about pastor Henning Jacobson. |
0:37.0 | Yep, I'm sure this is about vaccination. |
0:40.0 | Yes. |
0:41.0 | A while ago, producer Gabrielle Burbe called a church in Cambridge, Massachusetts. |
0:47.0 | In search of the origin story of an argument we're all having right now. |
0:53.0 | We're in the midst of the most ambitious vaccine rollout the world has ever seen. |
0:59.0 | There is finally hope that all of this will end. |
1:03.0 | But this hope depends almost entirely on how many people will be willing to get the vaccine. |
1:11.0 | There's still real fear around what this vaccine will do to us. |
1:17.0 | And this battle between hope and fear, it's not the first time we've seen it in this country. |
1:23.0 | It started in this church a hundred years ago. |
1:28.0 | Thank you for talking to me. This is like such a random call. |
1:32.0 | No, no, no, no, I love this kind of stuff. |
1:34.0 | Where the current pastor picked up the phone. |
1:36.0 | Are you in the church now? |
1:38.0 | No, yeah, this is our organist practicing. I just put on my mask. |
1:41.0 | I'm not a very talented organist. |
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