It doesn't matter how massive an artist is or whatever.

Like when you're creating something, it's a house of cards.

And the last thing you need is some person coming in there who's having a bad day or might not realize that they're projecting something that hasn't,

haven't doing anything else, come in and be like, oh, that hi-hat blows.

Ooh, like the room will just deflate.

And it's like, we'll fix the high hat if it did blow. You know, like, oh, that high hat blows. Ooh, like, the room will just deflate. And it's like, we'll fix the

high hat if it did blow. You know, like, we'll get, like, these are not the things that matters. We're, we are like much like how a baby isn't totally formed. Like, the baby's going to get formed. We're not worried about that. We're not worried about that. We're worried about creating an environment where the baby can get formed.

And I've had too many experiences, which now I will never

let happen where you let an energy or a person or a voice into a process that isn't protecting

it, almost like a chemical or something.

And to me, if you, you know, the artist spirit and myself and people I work with is so pure

that the protection of the process, if you really just do that, this is why I think great

things are made with small groups of people all believing in one thing.

Like, as a writer, I think you are at your best if someone says,

I love your perspective. Let's just lock the.

Yeah.

Let's just, you know, because then, like, it doesn't help the writer or the producer

to have that buzzy anxiety of something flying around a million rooms.

And it doesn't help, I think, the artist, to have a million opinions. It's like, the greatest

bodies of work are made by, like, a group of people that all see something the same way, and

then like, Gooney style, it's like, we're going to go for it together. And the more you can have that, all the things that I've ever felt were successful and loved came from like a group of people who just like, we believe in each so much, nothing else matters.

And so we like walk together.

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