The Cowdrey Lecture Pt 2: What does TMS mean to you?

Test Match Special

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Cricket, Sports News, News, Sports

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🗓️ 7 April 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

We bring you a special episode from Lords, where the TMS team had the honour of hosting the 2025 MCC Cowdrey Lecture.

In this second part, Jonathan Agnew is joined by Michael Vaughan, Phil Tufnell and Ebony Rainford-Brent to discuss what the Spirit of Cricket means to them and their memories of TMS.

There’s also chat around who will be England’s next white-ball captain, as well as a look ahead to a big year for both the England men’s and women’s teams.

Make sure you’re subscribed to TMS wherever you listen to your podcasts, so you don’t miss any episodes over the summer.

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0:41.3	BBC Sounds, music, radio podcasts.
0:46.5	You're listening to the TMS podcast from BBC Radio 5 Live.
0:52.3	Welcome to the Test Match Special podcast and the second part of the Cowdery Spirit of Cricket lecture, which the TMS team delivered at Lords.
0:55.6	I was joined on stage by Michael Vaughan, Ebony at Rainford Brent, and Phil Tufnell.
1:00.1	You're listening to the TMS podcast from BBC Radio 5 Live.
1:05.8	How many days cricket do you think you've played here at Lords, Phil?
1:09.2	Well, cricky. Middle sex-wise. 20 years, I played for Middlesex. Over a thousand? Over here at Lordsville? Well, cruecky, middle sex-wise, 20 years I played for middle-sex.
1:12.6	Over a thousand?
1:13.6	Over, yes, well over a thousand.
1:15.6	You're an MCC member?
1:17.6	No.
1:18.6	It's in the post.
1:21.6	It's in the post, tough.
1:23.6	I remember all those days of lamb chops and spotted dick and gatt and everything.
1:30.3	Yeah, Mike. I saw Gat the other day.
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