Donald Trump never understood how many of his voters would take cues from him.

Instead, he took cues from them.

Welcome to post-Corona, where we try to understand COVID-19's lasting impact on the economy, culture, and

geopolitics.

I'm Dan Seinore. What was the impact of COVID-19 on the political landscape?

What will it mean for elected leaders who governed during this past year?

And has COVID-19 changed the way journalists cover those political leaders?

Today we sit down with someone who knows something about covering a president during a pandemic that consumed his presidency.

For the entirety of the Trump administration, Maggie Haberman was a White House correspondent for the New York Times.

She joined the Times in 2015 and soon found herself covering Donald Trump's unlikely campaign.

She's part of a team at the Times that won a Pulitzer. Before joining the Times, Maggie was a reporter of

Politico, the New York Post, and the New York Daily News. She's a lifelong New Yorker. I first got to know her

when she was covering local politics here.

According to a profile about Maggie, she's written or co-written more than a story a day,

and stories with her byline have accounted for hundreds of millions of page views last year alone.

That's more than anyone else at the times.

So we talked to Maggie today about where journalism goes after the pandemic, what the Trump administration

got wrong and what it got right during COVID, and where that leaves other political figures,

including Joe Biden, Andrew Cuomo, and Ron Desantis. This is post Corona.

And I'm pleased to welcome former White House correspondent and currently Washington correspondent for the New York Times to the post-Corona podcast.

Hi Maggie.

Hi, Dan.

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