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The Yes Theory Podcast

The Courage to Hope

The Yes Theory Podcast

Yes Theory

Society & Culture, Personal Journals

4.81.7K Ratings

🗓️ 5 October 2020

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

“Hope makes you follow your dreams,” says actress Dina Shihabi, from the Amazon Original Jack Ryan. “I would have nothing in my life if I didn't have hope.” We’re living through a pretty dark time right now. There’s this constant stream of negative news coverage and criticism. It’s hard to feel certain or confident about anything. Which is why it’s more important than ever to tap into our collective reserve of hope - the belief that life can be better tomorrow than it is today. In today’s episode, Ammar sits down with Dina to talk about how growing up in Arab countries shaped how they view themselves and the world, and how hope was (and still is) the backbone to their wildest dreams. They share personal stories of needing to overcome cultural friction and disbelief, and finding ways to fuel that inner hope when no one else believed in them. Through Ammar’s and Dina’s stories of growing up, moving away from home, and chasing their dreams we come to see: hope is a resilient, beautiful, and messy force that requires us to confront cynicism and fear. Hope isn’t just a passive feeling; it’s an action. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I saw the Great Pyramids of Giza for the first time when I was four years old.

0:26.0

My dad took me to show me what was possible on this land.

0:30.4

These are gigantic structures. I distinctly remember looking up and being in total awe.

0:37.0

And at the time I was maybe like three feet tall, so they absolutely towered over me. I asked my dad right away.

0:45.0

Munkin' at La'haram, which means can I climb to the top?

0:50.0

And he said, Amor, La Attawa, which means Amar, absolutely not.

0:56.5

And in that moment I remember thinking, when I'm older, I'm going to climb this

1:02.2

pyramid.

1:04.8

For years after that, every single time I saw the pyramids which is a lot when you live

1:09.6

near Cairo.

1:10.9

I always thought about climbing them, especially Hopu, the tallest of the three.

1:17.1

You have to understand, I'm a huge dreamer, head in the clouds sort of dude.

1:21.4

And I've always been this way. I believe I can reach for more than

1:24.6

what's been handed to me. My hope is what directs the decisions I make. It's

1:28.3

really the core of who I am. If I didn't have hope, I would have never left my father's farm in Egypt.

1:34.0

Hope is what grounded me in believing I could forge my own path.

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