Big swings are necessary to become what we have the potential to become.

What does it actually take to do something that terrifies you?

Not the motivational type of courage.

I'm talking about the real courage.

I'm talking about the 3am cold sweat, heart racing kind of courage.

That is something that today's guest knows intimately.

I got a PhD in organizational behavior and focused on what's called behavioral integrity,

which is simply the perceived alignment between your espoused values, your words,

your commitment, your faith, whatever you say you're about, and your actions.

Dr. Kevin BASIC spent 24 years as a behavioral scientist in the Air Force.

He advised the Secretary of Defense on Values Driven Leadership and was trusted to help

build the National Medal of Honor Leadership Institute from the ground up, one of the most

pressure-filled assignments of his entire life.

When you make a commitment, you sacrifice freedoms.

You have lost the right to complain about the thing you just said you're in.

You make a commitment in a marriage?

You've lost the right now to pursue other people.

And you'll actually get to hear him talk about his 3 a.m. moment.

And what came out of that night became a framework that Medal of Honor recipients

themselves would go on to validate. It was not healthy. I think that's a big understatement

for me going through it. And it was just fear and uncertainty and self-doubt and all that.

And one night, and I kept usually waking up at about 3.44 in the morning. And one night I woke up and I'm like, I got at least figure something out here.

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