The Countryman–Foreigner Distinction (ft. Matthew Crawford)
First Things Podcast
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4.5 • 727 Ratings
🗓️ 5 March 2026
⏱️ 56 minutes
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| 0:30.3 | Hello, welcome to the editor's desk. |
| 0:32.9 | This is the podcast where we take a closer look at the essays and articles in the latest print issue of |
| 0:38.4 | First Things Magazine. I'm Rusty Reno. I'm the editor of First Things Magazine, and I'm here |
| 0:43.7 | with you today at the editor's desk. I'd like to welcome Matthew Crawford to the podcast. We're |
| 0:53.0 | going to talk about his March |
| 0:54.5 | 26 essay, Love in the Time of Mass Migration. Welcome to the podcast, Matt. Thanks for having |
| 1:02.3 | me, Rusty. You open this essay with an evocation of the ethic of hospitality. |
| 1:18.1 | And give us a sense of what is the kind of classical ethic? |
| 1:20.7 | I guess it's not even, it continues to this day. |
| 1:25.6 | Yeah, it's probably universal, I think, at timeless. Yeah, hospitality means welcoming someone without regard to their |
| 1:34.5 | merit. It's a kind of grace that's extended, that's outside the realm of exchange. And, you know, it tends to induce gratitude in the recipient. |
| 1:50.2 | So this seems like there's a kind of moral economy of grace and gratitude, which, interestingly, |
| 1:57.3 | share the same root etymologically. |
| 2:01.0 | So I think you feel yourself part of a community of the gracious, let's say, that tends to |
| 2:08.8 | transcend class divisions, political divisions, national distinctions. |
| 2:14.8 | It's sort of an encounter between one human being and another or a household. |
| 2:21.6 | And guests can overstay. |
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