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Culture Study Podcast

The Country Heart of Cowboy Carter

Culture Study Podcast

Anne Helen Petersen

Fashion & Beauty, Society & Culture, Arts

4.6637 Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2024

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Who can force a nationwide conversation about musical genre for a whole damn month? Beyoncé can. And I knew I wanted to be several weeks into that discussion — and several weeks into my own relationship with the album — before I dove in myself. I also knew I wanted to talk about it with someone else with a similarly deep and ambivalent relationship with country music: the good, the white, the cold-beer-nation-building, all of it. So I was absolutely thrilled when Elamin Abdelmahmoud agreed to come on the show and engage in what he calls one of his favorite hobbies: “talking about Beyoncé at length.” You’re gonna love the show and you’re gonna love Elamin and it’s gonna make you think a lot more about Cowboy Carter, even if it’s not (yet) your fav. I can’t wait for your thoughts (and to argue more about Jolene in the comments).

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, it's Anne. Just a heads up to the last part of our conversation. This is a 17-minute

0:06.8

discussion about Beyonce's cover of Jolene and where we think Cowboy Carter will rank in her discography

0:11.4

and why Elamine thinks that Jolene is the only skip on the album. This is exclusive to paid

0:17.7

subscribers. So if you already know that you want to hear that, head to

0:20.9

culturestudypod.substack.com and subscribe. I also just want to say that if you can swing it,

0:26.5

a yearly subscription is so helpful for us as we try to figure out our budget and continue to plan

0:31.2

out the show. It's normally $50 for a year, but if you already subscribe to the culture study

0:35.6

newsletter, you can add the podcast for just $30 a year.

0:39.2

Just throwing that out there. Okay, on with the show.

0:43.3

Beyonce shows up at the CMAs, and she's performing with the chicks.

0:48.1

To any reasonable and rational person, you would think, the stage is currently, you know, occupied by a lot of royalty.

0:55.9

Perhaps I should be rising to my feet.

0:57.5

Perhaps I should be celebrating the presence of Beyonce and the presence of the chicks and the

1:02.0

presence of this combination in front of me.

1:04.4

And what do the CMA do?

1:05.7

But not much, honestly.

1:07.6

Yeah, we're at the CMAs.

1:09.3

And like, yeah.

1:10.8

The Country Music Awards, and they're kind of like, who is this lady?

1:14.1

Why is he here?

1:15.3

I think there's a, I should be fair to the CMAs and say, like, a couple of people were quite excited by Beyonce's presence.

1:21.3

Yes.

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