The Cost of Truth Telling (And Why We Paid It)

We Can Do Hard Things

Treat Media and Glennon Doyle

Relationships, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.8 • 42.7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2026

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

We woke up to a Webby — and instead of just celebrating, we started asking: What does it mean to actually use your voice right now? Today, we’re talking about what building Treat Media has really meant — why we chose to go independent, what we’ve gained (and risked), and why having no middleman changes everything about what we can say and how we can say it. And make sure you’ve listened to Tuesday’s episode: Who is Enabling Trump? Amanda & (Our Next Pres?) Rep. Ro Khanna Name the Culprits and the Plan. We dig into Amanda’s conversation with Rep. Ro Khanna — what we agreed with, what left us unsettled, and the bigger truth underneath it all: Why aren’t the people in power doing the jobs they swore to do? This episode is about freedom, accountability, and what happens when you stop playing along. - Why going independent, and creating Treat Media, changed everything for us - What winning a Webby means — and what it doesn’t - Why “good people” isn’t the same as good leadership Follow We Can Do Hard Things on: Instagram — ⁠https://www.instagram.com/wecandohardthings⁠

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0:00.0	We've begun.
0:08.8	Hello.
0:09.6	Welcome to We Can Do Hard Things.
0:11.5	Right now before you, we were live, which we're not, but we're...
0:16.4	They get them died.
0:18.2	Abby was picking an unruly eyebrow off of my eyebrows.
0:23.1	And then I asked of her and my sister,
0:25.9	how do people not have gray eyebrows?
0:28.2	All I have are some eyebrows that have been overtweased from the 80s and never grew back.
0:35.0	And then now they're just like mostly brown with 12 or 13
0:42.3	long gray ones sticking out. And I don't understand what other people are doing.
0:47.9	They're dyeing them. How are people dying their eyebrows? When you go to get your hair done, you ask them to do your eyebrows.
0:57.9	And it takes literally five minutes. I think that is malpractice on the part of your person.
1:05.3	Do you do that? I do. I've never seen anyone in any hair salon getting their eyebrows dyed.
1:12.7	Did you know that was a thing?
1:13.9	Yeah, and I think you've done it before.
1:16.0	I've never gotten my eyebrows died.
1:18.1	Oh, I've gotten my eyebrows.
1:20.5	I have gone to a place that is an eyebrow place and I have laid down.
1:26.8	Have you ever had your eyebrows tinted, a different color?
1:30.4	No.
1:31.1	I've had things carved into my eyebrows.
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