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🗓️ 23 April 2025
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0:00.0 | Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Radical Canter podcast. I'm Kim Scott. And I'm Jason |
0:08.2 | Rosoff. And today we're going to be discussing a philosophy that's become almost mythical in |
0:12.6 | tech circles and that we're watching play out in real time in the U.S. government. This philosophy |
0:19.9 | is often referred to as the move fast and break things approach to work. |
0:26.1 | And when this approach is effective and when it might lead us astray. |
0:30.0 | So with that, let's get going. |
0:31.7 | I have to say, Jason, that one of my favorite photos, and we will put it in the show notes, comes from a friend of |
0:39.8 | mine who used to work at Facebook, which is the company that coined this, Move Fast and Break |
0:45.9 | Things. And the new sign was, slow down and fix your shit. |
0:52.7 | So move fast and break things is in my book, sort of obnoxiously aggressive. |
0:59.2 | However, I will say there is, at Google, we called it launch and iterate. |
1:04.5 | Yeah. |
1:04.7 | And that seems to me to be a better way to say what the good part of this, which is that if you're so |
1:14.7 | afraid of never making a mistake, you can't innovate, you can't fix things. It's sort of |
1:20.7 | the ethos behind whoopsa daisy, which is publicly saying, oh, I messed that one up, and I'm going to do better next time. |
1:31.9 | I mean, another way to say the good part of this is something that is on the bottom of a friend |
1:37.8 | of mine's every email says make new mistakes. |
1:42.1 | So I think that it needs to be okay to make a mistakes. So, so I think that it, it needs to be okay, |
1:46.9 | um, |
1:47.3 | to make a mistake. |
1:48.8 | You can't innovate if it's not okay to make a mistake. |
1:52.0 | And it even needs to be okay to admit mistakes in situations where |
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