I don't know what most white people in this country feel,

but I can only include what they feel from the state of their institution.

Now, this is the evidence.

You want me to make an act of faith, risking myself, my wife, my woman, my sister, my children,

on some idealism which you assure me

exists in America, which I have never seen.

Welcome to Black History for White People, a podcast where we educate, resource, and challenge

white people about black history. I'm Brad, and on today's show are my co-host, Katina and

Garant. Today's topic is

The Cost of Racism. We explore the financial cost of racism and what it means for everyone in

our country and even the world. We hope you enjoy the discussion.

All right, first episode of the new year. So, Garen, what are we going to be talking about today?

The cost of racism. Okay. What is it? First, I want to preface before we get into it. In this episode, we're going to be talking about how racism harms all of us, including white people. And part of it, we're going to talk about the ways that it harms the black community, but we're also going to talk about how it hurts the white community. And I just

want to preface by stating in a deliberate, compelling way that the reason to avoid racism is not

because it costs you as a white person. It's because you exist to love people. We are called to love people. That's why we are here is to love,

and that love benefits all of us. But the root of it is love and concern for others, not just

self-interest. One of the criticisms that the critical race theory makes of white people is that historically there's this

accusation that white people have only responded and pushed back against racism in ways that

fit with our own self-interest. And that is largely true. I don't think it's entirely true. I think there's times where you can look at

history and see white people in, you know, the underground railroad or some of the white pastors who came and

suffered in the civil rights marches, where you can see that they weren't operating in their own

self-interest. But I think that the broader white culture generally has backed away from racism. And we've talked about this in

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