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Breaking Down Patriarchy

The Cost of Fear - with author Meg Stone

Breaking Down Patriarchy

Amy McPhie Allebest

History, Education, Society & Culture

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 22 July 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Amy is joined by author Meg Stone to discuss her book, The Cost of Fear, digging into the difference between safety through compliance and safety through resistance, plus practical self-defense suggestions and what we can do to stop gender-based violence.

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Meg Stone is the Executive Director of IMPACT Boston, an abuse prevention and empowerment self-defense organization. Her writing has been published in Huffington PostNewsweekWashington PostBoston GlobeDame, and Ms. She has received numerous awards for her work over the past 30 years. She lives in Cambridge, MA, with her partner Mal and a shockingly large collection of musical theatre cast albums.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Breaking Down Patriarchy. I'm Amy McPhee. All the Best.

0:04.0

When I was a teenager, I remember reading a magazine article that told young women how to avoid being attacked by men.

0:12.0

The strategies that I remember are, don't ever be alone after dark. That one was obvious. My dad always told me that.

0:20.0

Whenever you encounter a man you don't know,

0:22.9

look right in his face so he knows that you would be able to identify him. Keep your car keys in

0:28.5

your hand with the key out so you can use it as a weapon if you need to. Hold your head up high,

0:34.1

walk fast and look confident. Predators prey on girls who look like they have low self-esteem.

0:39.7

Don't listen to music in public like with headphones on. Don't wear tight or revealing clothes because

0:46.7

that can give men the wrong idea. But also don't wear overalls or other loose baggy clothing

0:52.3

because then attackers can grab onto it. And then the other one,

0:56.5

and this is the one that like shocked and scared me the most was don't put your hair in a ponytail

1:01.5

because attackers can grab onto your ponytail and pull you with them. And that one scared me

1:06.9

and was just seemed so weird. And I remember also feeling like, oh my gosh, then there's

1:11.8

nothing I can do that will not make me a target. I mean, I am a ponytail girl. I had my hair

1:17.9

in a ponytail all the time. And I thought, oh my gosh, if I did get attacked, maybe like while

1:22.8

wearing a baggy sweatshirt or a ponytail, then maybe that would be my fault for being careless

1:27.2

and not

1:27.7

protecting myself. I'm guessing that a lot of women can relate to that experience, maybe hearing

1:33.2

advice like that. So I'm very excited to introduce today's topic. It's a book called The Cost of Fear,

1:40.7

why most safety advice is sexist and how we can stop gender-based violence by Meg Stone.

1:47.9

And here to talk about the book today is the author. Welcome Meg Stone. Thanks for being here.

1:53.0

Thank you so much for having me. Meg Stone is the executive director of Impact Boston,

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