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Hi, Richard.

Hi, Bob.

How you doing?

Good.

How about yourself?

I cannot complain.

Let me introduce us.

I'm Robert Wright.

This is The Right show.

Available on both streaming video and via

audio podcast. You are Richard Hanania, a political scientist and some other things. You're

president of something. What are you president of? Center for the study of partisanship and

ideologies. C.S.P.I for short. Are you still in defense priorities? Yeah, I still have an affiliation.

So you're a research fellow there, I think, but most important for our purposes,

you are the author of a new book, congratulations, called Public Choice Theory and the Illusion of

of Green Strategy. And that's what we're going to talk about. Now, the subtitle of the book, the title of the book,

as the title of the book suggests, it's in some ways an academic book for an academic

audience, but it has real world stakes, which are kind of spelled out by the subtitle, how generals,

weapons, manufacturers, and foreign governments shape American foreign policy.

You could say, I think, without egregiously distorting it, that it's about why American foreign policy is not coherent.

I might go so far as to say why it's so screwed up.

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