The copper tradeoff: Protecting today's lands versus preserving tomorrow's climate
On Point with Meghna Chakrabarti
WBUR
4.3 • 3.9K Ratings
🗓️ 12 March 2024
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
Copper is key to our green energy future, but copper extraction is deeply harmful to the environment now. Episode two of On Point’s special series “Elements of energy” explores how to resolve that contradiction.
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On Point is WBUR’s award-winning, daily public radio show and podcast. Every weekday, host Meghna Chakrabarti leads provocative conversations that help make sense of the world.
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| 0:22.0 | I've signed a historic piece of legislation here in the United States that includes the biggest most important climate commitment we have ever made in the history of our country. |
| 0:32.0 | President Biden set the goal. Cut U.S. carbon emissions in |
| 0:35.8 | half by 2030. So let this be the moment we find within ourselves the will to |
| 0:42.3 | unlock a resilient, sustainable clean energy economy to preserve our planet. |
| 0:48.0 | Achieving that goal will require vast amounts of lithium. |
| 0:53.0 | This lithium deposit is one of the richest ones in North America. |
| 0:57.0 | Copper. |
| 0:59.0 | We are at probably an inflection point in the annual demand for copper. |
| 1:05.1 | Cobalt. |
| 1:06.1 | The only way to survive in that part of the Congo is to pick up a strip of rebar |
| 1:12.1 | or their bare hands and start digging in pits for COBOL because it's everywhere. |
| 1:16.1 | Nickel. And if you're looking at a Ford F-150 lightning, you know, we're looking I think almost at about 180 pounds of just |
| 1:25.2 | nickel in that battery. |
| 1:27.9 | Each element serves a different purpose, but they all have one important thing in common. |
| 1:33.4 | Without mining there will not be a clean energy transition. |
| 1:37.0 | But increasing mining to meet our clean energy needs |
| 1:40.8 | comes at a cost. |
| 1:42.2 | If we're going to be using these materials, we need to, first of all, be honest with ourselves and be more aware. |
| 1:48.0 | Especially if you look at the environmental and social costs of becoming a smelting and mining and battery hub to the world. |
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