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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

The Contraceptive Mandate

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

Slate Audio

News Commentary,, Government, News

4.6 • 3.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 March 2016

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

This week, the Supreme Court heard arguments in Zubik v Burwell, the latest challenge to the Affordable Care Act. This time, a group of religious non-profits are challenging the government’s accommodation for employers who don’t want to have anything to do with providing birth control to their workers. Dahlia speaks with Paul Clement, who argued the case for the plaintiffs, and Walter Dellinger, who supports the government's position.

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0:00.0

Amicus is sponsored by Amazon. Detective Harry Bosch is back on the new season of Amazon's original series Bosch, based on the best-selling novels by Michael Connolly.

0:10.3

Stream the new season now on Amazon Prime Video.

0:13.6

And by The Great Courses Plus, a new video service with more than 5,000 lectures on subjects from science to cooking to history.

0:20.6

Right now, you can have unlimited access to the entire Great Courses Plus library for a whole month for free by visiting the greatcoursesplus.com slash amicus.

0:35.8

Hi, and welcome to Amicus, Slate Supreme Court podcast.

0:39.0

I'm Dahlia Lithwick, and I cover the Supreme Court for Slate.

0:46.1

This week, we're going to focus on a big case argued this week at the court.

0:49.8

It's called Zubik v. Burwell, although you may know it better as Hobby Lobby Act 2 or the Little

0:56.5

Sisters case. Two years ago, the U.S. Supreme Court decided by a five-four split that closely

1:02.5

held for-profit corporations with religious objections to the so-called contraception mandate

1:07.6

in the Affordable Care Act could opt out of covering those devices and products,

1:12.8

even though the Obama administration had deemed them necessary for basic preventive health care for women.

1:18.8

Now, in the majority opinion in Hobby Lobby, authored by Justice Samuel Alito,

1:22.8

the court said that the fact that there was a workaround, an opt-out that was granted to objecting

1:28.9

not-for-profits, meant that that was a workaround that Hobby Lobby should get, too. Here is Samolito

1:34.9

reading that portion of the opinion from the bench. Although HHS has made this system available to

1:41.3

religious nonprofits, HHS has provided no reason why the same system

1:46.2

cannot be made available when the owners of for-profit corporations have similar religious

1:51.2

objections. And we therefore conclude that this system constitutes an alternative that achieves

1:57.3

all of the government's aims while providing greater respect for religious liberty.

2:01.8

And under RFRA, that conclusion means...

2:04.0

Fast forward two years, and the problem for the court and the principal issue in Zubik

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